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From:
J
Date: Sunday, April 9, 2000
Subject: 2 suggestions for you mp3 > MD page


Hi,


Thanks for the page. 2 suggestions: I prefer a 1.5 second gap file. This does the job of splitting up the tracks without wasting as much space as a 3 second gap. It is also annoying for the delay between songs to be so long. Also, you can avoid buying a splitter for the audio out by just plugging speakers or headphones into your MD's mic jack. This way you can hear what is being recorded without extra equipment.

BTW, I have a Sony MZ-R50 and I love it. I use Audion 1.5 to record mp3s onto MD. The only problem I've had is that Audion take a second or so to load the next song to play. This would normally be fine, and in fact, can usually be preferred, but %99 of what I put onto MD from mp3 is live so having silent gaps between songs sucks. It takes lots of trial and error to delete the silent bits in order to connect the songs. This is only a problem with songs that segue into one another, if it was just crowd noise, I wouldn't have to be so exact with my deleting.



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From: Dale Greer
Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2000
Subject: MD-MP3 Mac Recording


Hi Gregory,

I love your MD-MP3 page!

I'm a pretty hard-core audiophile, however, so it gave me the idea of
putting together the same kind of tutorial for digital transfers.

My page is nowhere near as nice as yours but, if you're interested, check out:

<http://home.sprintmail.com/~dalegreer/MacMD.html>

The lack of Mac-specific info on this subject was extremely frustrating, so I hope I've helped others avoid the headaches I experienced....

All the best,


Dale Greer

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From: Emilio C. H.
Date: Sunday, April 9, 2000
Subject: MD test


Hi. This is Emilio C. I wrote before to tell u about your e-mail on
MD recording. I finally got around. This is how it went:

I used:
* imacDV/400 with 192MB of RAM
* DENON minidisc recorder DMD-M7
* SoundJam MP
* Cable with one stereo end and a RCA (red and white) end on the other
* Lots of patience

I followed your tutorial, but had some problems:
1) I let the recording for too long and somehow the disk became corrupt:
it showed up as a blank disk!! I had to watch out and stop the playback from Soundjam after the last song ended and everything was OK.
2) I had to plug the stereo plug to one of the front sound out ports for headphones and a headphone at the same time. Otherwise it wouldn't record.

Both problems were rather stranhge. try to fiddle a little bit more to see if I can come out with a partner. Also, try your tutorial with my Kenwood portable MD recorder.

Thanks again!!!


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From: Dan L.
Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000
Subject: Mac to Minidisc


I've just got hold of an AIWA F65 and I've just recorded 2 discs of MP3s.

I used virtually the same method that you described, with a stero cable
from the audio out of my powerbook 2400(not the best audio Apple ever did) and into the minidisc - It worked perfectly (I use GrayAMP as my MP3 player).

I set the sound out of the powerbook at 65% (using Jeremy's Volume Pro Control Strip) and the automatic setting on the minidisc...

I've been looking for a good way of carrying around the MP3s I have access to (about 4.5 gigs - 1600+) and so far this is the best way I've found as I can also grab my tapes, CDs and records if I want...

Later.
Dan.

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From: Chris Cooper
Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2000
Subject: Minidisc on Mac tip


I've found that on iMacs and possibly other newer machines that changing the input source from "built in modem" to "nothing" in the sound control panel can make a huge improvement in the minidisc sound quality. For some reason, when the input source is set to "built in modem" you can hear a faint but very annoying static or a hissing noise that will find its way onto your recordings even if the modem is not in use. Cool site by the way!

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From: Perry K.
Date: April 2000
Subject: Forget Those MP3 Players (Taken From MacWorld US Apr 2000)


I recently read MacWorld's article about MP3 players ("MP3 to Go," February 2000), and I don't see that portable MP3 players are practical yet. Unless you're looking for the latest gadget, they're aren't worth the plastic and metal they're made of. You can barely get any music on the meager amount of RAM they provide, and the expandable flash cards are very expensive.

Personally, I am sticking with MiniDiscs. I bought a recorder and player for under $300, and I hooked the recorder up to my stereo and my computer. It's the best thing I've ever had. I never have to worry about encoding, file formats, or download time. If my computer or stereo can play it, I can record it. The player is about the size of a portable Mp3 player, and the discs are $3 to $5 each and come in 60- or 72-minute lengths.

Please let people know about alternatives before they get trapped in the expensive world of portable MP3 players.


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From: Hannah H.
Date: August 2000
Subject: MP3-MD Recording Feedback

Hello,

I have a strawberry iMac and just purchased a Sharp 722 minidisc recorder. I have not actually used your instructions for recording MP3s yet, since I need to buy the cable, but I am glad I found the information on your page. I knew it was possible, I just didn't know that kind of cable to buy!

I would like to respond to your commenter
Emilio Cruz. I have been recording CDs into minidiscs tonight, and the first time I tried it, the minidisc showed up as blank! I realized that the the CD player had skipped finished the CD I wanted and rotated on to the next CD, thereby recording more than 74 minutes. I think this might be a problem with some minidisc players, they will not cut off after 74
minutes of recording, but experience the equivalent of a crash. Right now it seems to be recording fine, I just have to keep a close eye on the time.


The page is super-useful! Just what I needed! I found it through a search engine, but I am not sure which. I have a Rev C Strawberry iMac with 8.6. Here are a couple suggestions for making the page totally idiot-friendly:

1. provide a vendor or model number or link to a place that sells that cable

2. make the analogy that you are hooking the minidisc player up to your computer the exact same way you would be hooking speakers up to it.

And here is something I have found it, that the process can be eversed if you just put the cord into the MD headphones port and the "sound in" port. I guess that is only useful for playing it on built in computer speakers (if these are good) or turning stuff that was originally recorded on MD into computer files. That is actually something I am very interested in since the only MP3 sites I go to involve live (bootleg) audio.


Regards,
Hannah H.


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From: Jeremy
Subject: Re: Mac-MD
Date: March 2001

Jeremy wrote:

> Hey There!
> I found you much needed page after fruitlessly searching for anything
> that can tell me about Mac-MD.
> Do you know any other pages that might give me more insight???


thanks! glad u liked it, for analog recording mine's the best u can find out there on the Mac ;) you could try Minidisc.org to learn more about the workings of MD. which mp3 software player r u using btw?

> I just got a Sony MZ-R55 and have got a G3 Powerbook(bronze series) and
> was wondering how to connect the two beasts up to both download and
> upload sound. Ive just got a standard 3.5 to 3.5 plug. Is this
> sufficient??? I undertsand if you want perfect ,c risp sound you might
> need a digital connection. Correct?? If so does the sound out port on
> the mac preoduce only an analogue signal??


yes unfortunately it does have to be this way (via analog) as it is 1) rare to have Digital Out port on a recorder and 2) there is any way you could add a digital port to your PowerBook. but I'm sure it is pretty sufficient if you're happy with the quality of sound urself. no point spending more $$$$ just to have none or marginal increase in sound quality. you could try Dale Greer's site for more info on Mac-MD digital recordings...

<http://home.sprintmail.com/~dalegreer/MacMD.html>

> I seem to have the Laptop to MD working okay can get some songs recorded
> from CD.... apart from the fact that some tracks seem to lose the left
> hand (or whichever ) speaker... I can seem to rectify this by turning
> one of the headphone output (right - in sound control panel) down to
> nothing... then it seems to be okay... Am I doing anything wrong in
> terms of this??


I get this prob sometimes as well. you should set your PB and CD software player's vol level's set to the max then adjust according on your MD recorder the recording level to prevent distortion. For me, either side losing sound would be due to the 3.5" plug not being connected properly, or the contact points r plain wonky/sensitive (it's a cheapo plug $1-2 only).

I always listen to my Mac's output on the MD before synchro recording to ensure both sides r getting recorded to check the miniplug connection.

> Secondly, what is the deal with uploading sound from the MD... should
> the sound input port work... what do I need to inport the sound, what
> program... I have Sound Edit 16 v2.0 but cant seem to get a signal... any
> settings on the Mac that I need to change??


make sure that you have your Sound control panel settings correct. Under the 'Input' tab, ensure that 'Sound In' is highlighted as the source. do u have SoundJam? if so u could use it to test the signal or the sound control panel itself. sorry I'm not too sure about the workings of SoundEdit. you could try a shareware app called Sound Studio for this purpose too if SoundEdit is still not working.



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From: Saul Wainwright
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003
Subject: Minidisc Recording Question

Hey There,

I wanted to ask a quick question if you could give me any advice about
recording FROM my minidisc thru USB into Itunes.
I understand the from Itunes to my Minidisc just not the reverse.

Thanks
SAul

Hi Saul,

I think the basic concept is the same for MD-Mac... Despite the various hardware available. Unless your mac has audio input ports you would need a device to connect between your MD n Mac such as the inexpensive Griffin iMac and higher-end USB Roland UA-30.

Once you got the hardware setup you need to find the software to do that recording from MD. There are some freeware and shareware titles that do this.

Here are some links that explain the concept of recording from an audio devices such as your MD or vinyl LPs as below to get you started!

<http://www.atpm.com/9.03/under-the-hood.shtml>
<http://www.atpm.com/9.04/under-the-hood.shtml>
<http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic/getting_started.html>

<http://www.guitarseminars.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001724.html>

<http://www3.macintouch.com/usbaudio.html>
<http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/8052>
<http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/15962> OS X
<http://www.visualclick.de/products/coaster/index.html> - OS 9 only
<http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/10925>
<http://www.kentidwell.com/tunes/>

More info from <http://www.1stperson.org/discuss.php?s=100>



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